UPDATE: Ali, aka Alitzah Wiener-Dallas, just wrote me on Facebook and was more than gracious enough to share a detailed account of the group's experiences. It is a fascinating look into the machinations of the music industry. I think you'll greatly enjoy her recollections. Thanks a TON, Ali. I'm sure many Isle devotees and visitors will be thrilled! :)
"Hi! This is Ali from Nobody's Angel. First I want to take the time to say thank you for including us in your blog, but I also want to mention there are some false facts in the blog. Nobody's Angel first album was solely produced by Andrew Logan and Mike Moore. Our first album, which was released February of 2000, actually sold very well, almost 500,000 units. We actually did have a very awesome fan base - it was our fan base that kept Nobody's Angel alive in a market that was being over-saturated by manufactured bands. The record industry is very political and there are a lot of things that go on behind the scenes that fans don't know about it. Reality TV started around that time so now Nobody's Angel was competing with bands who were auditioning to be a group and having instant promo on TV that reached the masses, unlike us, who were out grinding on the road only living off of per diem . I know on TV they make it look so glamorous but that's not the way it really is. Nobody's Angel actually had a TV holding deal with ABC and were slated to do a TV show. That is how we were introduced on Boy Meets World. The producer/creator of Boy Meets World was to be the producer of the Nobody's Angel TV show. Unfortunately, one of our music producers from our first album became greedy and tanked the deal for everyone. Nobody's Angel had been approached by WB network to do a reality show but we turned it down because we were gung-ho on wanting to be taken serious as vocalists and actresses. Once I found out there was shadiness going on in our camp from management, producers, etc., I knew we needed to clean house. I then brought in my childhood friends Jennie Kwan and Tai Hoo to become the new Nobody's Angel and we got new management, etc.. With the new Nobody's Angel, we recorded two songs for the soundtrack Princess Diaries, which earned us a Gold Record. We then started writing and producing our second record with producers Matthew Gerrard, Access Denied and Schaffer Smith (Ne-Yo). The album was off the charts ."I'd Like To Be " and "Out Of My Life " were not demos, they were songs from the never-released album. While we were recording we were offered another TV deal with ABC Family, which we were super excited about. We couldn't wait to go on the road and show our fan-base a new grown up look and sound. We were all very hands on and we were taking our career into our own hands. Well, right when our TV show was supposed to go into pre-production, ABC Family got a new president, so Nobody's Angel had to get re-approved from the new president. The new president approved the forward movement of the Nobody's Angel TV Show, BUT then a week later ABC Family decided to take their network in a whole new direction and the Nobody's Angel show was dropped. So, now being the end of 2002 and music changing and radio not wanting to play girl bands and boy bands, the record company (Hollywood Records) told us girls that without the TV show they were not gonna put big dollars into marketing the 2nd album, which, if you don't know, means bands go on the road and make per diem only, unless they make TV appearances or make money from sponsorships, etc.. Our advance was almost gone (an advance is what an artist gets from the record company, basically a salary so you can record an album and promote it and live off, but it's given at the beginning of the recording process). Now a year into an advance, since all of us girls lived on our own and clearly had bills to pay, our advance was quickly coming to an end. So myself , Sarah, Tai, Jennie, our wonderful manager Wil Sharpe and our A&R Steffen Phelps (who signed Nobody's Angel) all met for dinner to decide the fate of Nobody's Angel. It was a very sad day for us all when we came to the conclusion to end Nobody's Angel, not because we wanted to, but we would've all made more money working a basic minimum wage job then to spend months promoting an album and not have the full support financially of the record company. With the start of illegal downloads, record companies were losing money and reality TV was skyrocketing. It was becoming a whole new world for the entertainment business.
It was a wonderful time for Nobody's Angel. We loved every moment of it. We thank everyone who supported us and actually still support us in our new ventures.
Fem 2 Fem was something I did for 1.5 seconds prior to Nobody's Angel. :) I'm very close still to our manager, our A&R Steffen, Sarah, Jennie and Tai. All 4 of us continued acting, singing, etc., and all are wonderfully happy doing what we love to do. The best thing that came out of a Nobody's Angel was that I met my husband Dallas from the group Youngstown . Dallas and I still write and produce music. Our latest venture is a kid show I created called Twinkle Time!"
Download Nobody's Angel
1 | If You Wanna Dance | |
2 | I Can't Help Myself | |
3 | Boom Boom | |
4 | Next Stop Heaven | |
5 | Keep Me Away | |
6 | Right There Waiting | |
7 | Ooh La La La | |
8 | Wishing On You | |
9 | Absolutely Maybe | |
10 | Sugardaddy | |
11 | Nobody | |
12 | Cherry Crush | |
13 | We Are Family (Angel's Style) |
I just want to say what a huge fan I am of this place and Milk Carton Pop Stars, and that I'm even more in awe because my mother actually owns Stacye & Kimiko's album and Debbie Allen's! I've started my own little "where are they now" blog and I hope you can check it out. Please keep up the good work.
ReplyDeleteWhy thank you! And your mom is obviously super cool! ;) I've linked your blog. It's gonna be a lot of fun, especially since it's focusing on R&B stars. Looking forward to more posts. (And if you haven't yet, check out the Will For All link. If you like 80's and 90's R&B, he has TONS there!!)
ReplyDeleteCould you please reupp this album? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteIt's been reupped. ;)
DeleteJust wanted to post some more info about them in case anyone is interested
ReplyDeleteSingles:
If You Wanna Dance
If You Wanna Dance (Album Version)
If You Wanna Dance (Radio Edit)
If You Wanna Dance (Thunderpuss 2000 Radio Mix)
If You Wanna Dance (Thunderdub)
I Can't Help Myself: Promo Single
I Can't Help Myself (Album Version)
I Can't Help Myself (Radio Remix)
Soundtracks:
Let's Get Together -The Parent Trap Soundtrack
Pokémon World (feat. Youngstown) -Pokémon The Movie 2000 Soundtrack
Ain't Nothing But She A Thang (feat. Lil J) -102 Dalmatians Soundtrack
Always Tomorrow - 102 Dalmatians Soundtrack
Scrapped Album:
Whatcha Gonna Do (With Your Second Chance)
Always Tomorrow
It Ain't Nothing But She A Thang (feat. Lil J)
Out Of My Life (Demo)
I'd Like To Be (Demo)
Other Songs:
Remi (No info about this song, just saw it scrobbled in Last.Fm)
i had a crush on jennie kwan from california dreams and would like to meet her.we could write songs together for unsigned /newly signed bands.
ReplyDeletethe songs i found on youtube were different than this list .i found 11/13. i couldn't find "next stop heaven " or "nobody" but i found"whatcha gonna do" and
ReplyDelete"let's get together".
did you know they performed "i can't help myself" on an episode of boy meets world when it was part of tgif?
DeleteDamn this gave me some much needed closure haha childhood crushes
ReplyDeleteCould you please re-upload this? I literally don't know what's wrong with my computer but it like, refuses to comment on this.
ReplyDeleteIt's been reupped.
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